Comments on: Ronald Weinland “False Prophet” Myths Debunked – Myth #2

By: Roger

Roger — Sun, 06 Sep 2009 06:56:53 +0000

I am sure you are aware of the term little flock ,which is very small.This flock is minuscule in size.The church of god is comprised of the 144000 “called out” from under Satan’s rule and deceptions of this world over the last six thousand years.(John 6:44) Only a few more will be awakened and called in the last church age of Laodicea in the present End-Times that we are now living in.I am aware of the history of the Church Of God and the tribes of Israel.I acknowledge that the very few last “called” are the remnant of Ephraim and Manasseh,the seeds of Jacob.Some people say that Nicodemus was saved.God reveals that as in Adam all die,even so the same “all” in Christ ,shall be made alive by a resurrection from the dead.(No one is saved,yet).The first resurrection is only for the( “called 144000 firstfruit,s” ) All others will be resurrected at The Great White Throne Judgment of (Revelation 20.) They all will be dead for the one thousand years while Jesus and the 144000 firstfruits are reigning under The Kingdom Of God here on Earth.The Gospel of Christ is only about this period of time when he will rule in Earth as it is in Heaven.Our Father thou art in Heaven hallowed the thy name it will be done in Kingdom come on Earth as it is in Heaven.The Church Of God is called first to be trained by the first of the firstfruits’ that is ,”Jesus”.Jesus is the only one that has been fully begotten in spirit into God’s family,waved before the Father with out sin(Feast of Unleaven Bread) until the first resurrection.Most do not realize that we are not saved by the blood of Christ.You will read in (Romans 5:10) that we are reconciled to God the Father by the death of Christ,but we shall be saved by his life-by the resurrection.Jesus alone could make the sacrifice in payment of our past sins. But the world must look for salvation through his life after his resurrection.The Church is the betrothed Bride of Christ to be married to the son of God on his return,after the resurrection of the Church.The Church is in the process of training to become priests.co-saviors with Jesus in saving the world from his second coming to and including the second resurrection in Revelation 20.The hidden lost tribe of Israel’s seeds, the true Church where among the protestant majorities fleeing religious persecution from medieval Europe to the relative safety of the new world.Mr Stephen Mumford,a member of a sabbath-keeping Church in London,left England for Newport, Rhode Island.in 1664. By the mid 1800,vigorous new Sabbath-keeping congregations,raised up as a result of the preaching of William Miller,1831-1849.At Battle Creek,Michigan,in 1860,many thousand were persuaded to accept the beliefs of the followers of Ellen G White.They departed from the true name-the Church Of God. Instead of the true gospel,the Kingdom Of God,they substituted doctrines of Ellen G White,called “the shut-door policy,” “the investigative judgment,” a “2,300 day” doctrine and “the spirit of prophecy,” identifying Mrs.White as the Church’s prophet who actually set the Church’s doctrine.But in vain they do worship me,teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. (Matthew 15:9) God said through Moses: “Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here in this day,every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes”(Deuteronomy 12:8). And again: “Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them (Pagan religious customs)…and that thou inquire not after their Gods,saying,How did these nations serve their Gods? even so will I do likewise. Thou shalt not do so unto the Lord thy God: for every abomination to the Lord,which he hateth, have they done unto their Gods…”(Deuteronomy 12:30-31) The closer one get,s to the truth the harder Satan, works to corrupt and deceive by distorting the truth.Keeping and observing all God’s appointed Holy Times,Covenants and Festivals serves it’s purpose to make clear the awesome plan of God.Jesus came not to change times and laws but to perfect and fulfill them through the Sabbath,Passover,Unleaven Bread, ,Pentecost,Trumpets,Atonements, Feast of Tabernacles,Last Great Day.Follow God not Man.Keep an open mind.Test all things.All of Traditional Christianity is in error.There is only one Church Of God that Jesus started in 31AD.The only way to find out the true Church’s identity is through a “calling”(John 6:44) then obedience to the Holy Spirits guidance .This is where the trials and persecutions will increase as one gets ever nearer in understanding and conformance.I have not as yet found the true church,but I know I am getting close,down to around three or four possibilities.I pray that I will be successful.It will come down to the fruits that these few churches produce in dealing with them.Their fruits should be unblemished and ripe with no defects.I will not tithe again until I am beyond all reasonable doubt as to avoid further deceptions.God Bless Roger.

By: carmel

carmel — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 09:53:50 +0000

I have been a christian for a long time (43yrs) have a solid foundation in the word so I do comment on the fact that
Jesus says anyone who preaches in my name is fore me and not against me it is God that truely judges anyone’s true motives… The Church in it’s self has lost the true meaning of the sermon on the mount….. or actually hasn’t understood the concepts…….. Jesus came to save sinners…we all are……and are set free by his sacrifice….also Jesus says “he would not that anyone perish or be lost” and everyone has the choice to accept him. Man is in himself a selfish breed and hard hearted.
Jesus also hasn’t come to bring peace but a sword read Matthew this would certainly mean end time events.

By: truthseeker

truthseeker — Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:50:28 +0000

I felt bad after writing about the Mormons. Not only are all religions wrong but they are also demonic at their core. I know, I studied a lot/most. I’m just glad that God has revealed the truth to me now.

By: sisterri

sisterri — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:14:32 +0000

The funny thing, truthseeker, is that I never considered myself Mormon. When I was growing up, in the “Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints,” I was taught that we were not Mormon in the Utah sense (polygamy). But you know it really makes no difference whether I was Mormon, Baptist, Catholic, Islam, whatever – they’re all wrong. I’ve always thought Mormon ideas pretty strange. I just didn’t realize that the RLDS/Community of Christ church is so much like protestant churches, and therefore Catholic. About the only truth I can still accept is the idea of separation between the father & the son.

We’re all okay. I appreciate prayers. And, currently, we’re too far apart to meet, but perhaps when the nukes hit, I’ll go to my in-laws near Jamestown, NY??

I almost every night fall asleep listening to Ron. I even confessed one time that I went to bed with Laura’s husband. We laughed, because I wasn’t the only one. Going to bed with my mp3 player saves me incredibly as far as hot flashes or pain in my arm is concerned – when I hear Ron, I’m comforted and go back to sleep.

I’m looking forward to Laura talking, too. I wouldn’t be surprised if it had to do with women and children and how we should be more responsible with our families, too.

Rachel, I, too, am sorry about what you had to go through. Rejection is frustrating – but it makes it so much better when you aren’t rejected!! I’m not sure what our responsibility is – I think it is to wait for others to ask us. If you’re not part of the church, yet, I can tell you there are members in the NYC area, now.

If you haven’t done so, check out http://www.cog-pkg.org/faq/, it’ll tell you what you need to do next.

By: truthseeker

truthseeker — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:31:36 +0000

Hi Rachel, sorry to hear about your friend. When something like that happens to me it helps me to read or remember different scriptures that warns that this will happen to God’s chosen people. And really people just can’t understand if it is not given to them. A year and a half ago I would have said the same thing your other friend said. It just is not given or natural. Satan gives us what is natural to man, that’s why we choose his way unless we are called.

I fall asleep listening to his sermon too, and his sermons are like a foundation to me. If I’m feeling all alone in the world, they help me.

If you haven’t yet, I would recommend finding the requirements and doing the so that you may become part of the body if possible. You need to be baptized to have the Holy Spirit dwell in you. Now you have the Holy Spirit guiding you. I didn’t think that there would be a difference but there is. God will work with you directly in an indescribable way.

I stopped talking to most people about the truth unless they ask or say the right things.

By: rachel

rachel — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 04:03:56 +0000

i realize no matter how much preparing and storeing of herbs and radiation detoxes, if gods grace is not with me then wheather im in ny or pa it dosnt matter. i sent gods final witness to a friend and without them knowing it was i who sent it they gave it back to me. in front of a bunch of people i was mad fun of. i dont get mad anymore because god gives me the words to say that would try to open there hearts. i say to myself that it will all be ok cause we all will have to make a desision one day, weather to be to be with the lord or not. i hear so many theries and sarcassims everytime i speak of jesus or god, but one coment that came from someone i loved today broke my heart. he said ” i dont want anything to do with a god that would let all this happen” of course i repeated for the thousenth time that it is man doing it to himself, but he is so closed. of course we worry about or children but my 14 year old is so caught up in this culture ( not so great paarenting on my part) that i know drastic changes need to be made.

i fall asleep sometimes listening to rons sermons, his voice is so soothing and his words so refreshing. i would love to meet him and become part of his church. i live in queens and there arent any churches here that i know of that preach the bible. i also cant wait till his wife starts her thing cause im assuming shes goin to make a grand impression.

ron speaks of nothing but the truth and the same spirit that killed jesus is what we see when people bash ron.
i belive stuff is getting ready to hit the fan, and if it dosnt, i will just thank god for another day i hear these beautiful birds sing. god bless everyone. heres a podcast i listened to that anyone can google and will find interesting.
STEVE QUAYLE C2C INTERVIEW CURRENT EVENTS 5-17-08 (TFW

By: truthseeker

truthseeker — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 04:54:06 +0000

Worrying for our kids is the worst part. I wish I would have had them in 5 years but it is what it is and there is purpose in everything.

I’ll pray for your family Sisterri. I guess you were Mormon all your life. What did you think about what they teach? I studied them independently as I could without getting too close mostly out of curiosity. Very interesting, and very far off. That’s all I’ll say about that.

I live on the other side of PA near Pittsburgh. I’m wondering which way the wind will be blowing this weekend.

By: sisterri

sisterri — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:07:48 +0000

I know what you mean. I still pray for humility for them. But where I live, I felt I should speak. My two daughters, 23 & 24, may have hope. I’ve told one, IF something happens this weekend, she & her husband should high-tail it to her in-laws’ basement. The other daughter, by a miracle I’m sure, is headed towards central PA & southwestern NY state this weekend with her husband & her daughter that is not normally with her. Since all of us live near several port cities, and none of us has basements, this should be good. Neither are believers yet, but do not attend any church, etc. My parents, on the other hand, go to church every Sunday, AND, my father is a minister in their church. I used to think my dad was the nicest, friendliest, smartest person I knew. I totally understand, now, why my mother is so sickly, and why so many of his relatives killed themselves (they were mormons). My father told me, with fake humility, that they would continue going to church on Sunday. This, despite his having read both books as well as Armstrong’s Sabbath article, and my saying that Sunday worship was every bit as bad as not worshipping on Sunday. They don’t have a basement either, but God will save them if they’re going to change.

By: South Africa 28

South Africa 28 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:20:47 +0000

Truthseeker,

That is exactly how I am feeling too. I am alittle worried that my family might turn out to have stuborn heart’s.
As I believe that once the nuclear attacks happen they would be shaken too their cores and then I could pass on what it is I have learnt.
But I understand that that might just not happen and I must prepare myself.
They are not very prideful but seem to be more of someone trying to avoid the truth.
So I just pray that a attack like that on the U.S.A would force them to face some truths, that I shall give them.
I have not tried up until now, as Mr RW is 100% right in the fact we cannot give this understanding to another. Only God. So I just pray and wait for someone to ask me a question.

By: truthseeker

truthseeker — Sat, 31 May 2008 01:04:50 +0000

I’ve withheld using the word “excitement” but for me it is a sort of excitement mixed with fear. I get excited at least for my family to see that what I have been talking about is true so that they can start there journey towards truth. I’m am afraid that even this is not enough for some of them with their proud hearts and they will die denying that God cares about what they do and how they live and even worship him.