One of the very many reasons why people don’t want to accept Mr. Weinland as being one of God’s prophets is the fact that the 2nd Trumpet of Revelation was not blown within the time-frame that he had originally spoken to us. One part of this is that Mr. Weinland stated that he was in no way being presumptuous in his thinking, and so thus was not sinfull. The very heart and soul of prophethood and false-prophethood can be found in this following verse:
Deuteronomy 18:22 “When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.”
I bolded a very important part of this verse, because without this, every prophet that would ever claim to be a prophet of God would otherwise have to be discounted, but however, God will indeed allow for His prophet to speak something that He did not command for Him to speak, but under the condition that the prophet is not speaking presumptuously. This verse states that if the thing which was prophecied does not happen BUT he spoke the prophecy presumptuously, then thou shall not be afraid of him (in other words, he would have to be deemed a false prophet).
Now, what does speaking presumptuously really actually mean ? Well, there is a very stark difference between speaking presumptuously and assumptuously. When somebody speaks presumptuously, that person is presuming (speculating) certain conditions or other thoughts in order to arrive at their final conclusion on something, and their speculations might involve believing in things which are OTHER than what was previously taught to them . When somebody speaks assumptuously, that person is speaking things that are based upon the beliefs that they have been taught to them.
Having said this, Mr. Weinland was not speaking presumptuously through the speculation of other beliefs, but rather he was deriving his conclusion of what the time-frame was through the beliefs that God’s Church had been believing for many many decades. Now, as we have seen with so very many of the truths of God, there is much revelation that God gives to His servants and thus to His Church, His body of Christ, as without this revelation, God’s Church would become stagnated and would become lukewarm, complacent, and lethargic in truth and in spirit, and when this ocurred in God’s Church, God separated Himself (cut Himself off from) His body of Christ, He spewed them out of His mouth, vomitted him out of His mouth because God does not dwell in lukewarmness, and then God began calling back a remnant into a single unified church body.
If it wasn’t for God’s Church having believed that Jesus Christ would be returning on the Feast Of Trumpets, then Mr. Weinland would indeed be a false prophet because he wouldn’t be basing his spoken words from his faith in his beliefs. Mr. Weinland was basing his beliefs ONLY upon what his beliefs already were, and he did not once stray away from that before God gave him revelation as to the true timing for the return of Jesus Christ on the day of Pentecost. God judges His people based ONLY on the understand that they have been given through His revelation to them, because any other judgement executed upon them based on any understanding that God had not yet given to them would not be mercifull on God’s part. So thus, God judges Mr. Weinland based SOLELY upon what God has revealed to Him. Since God’s Church had believed that Jesus Christ would be returning on the Feast Of Trumpets (before the revelation of the 50th Truth), that is what God would be using to judge His people. According to the Scriptures, God would have to be judging whether or not they are wavering in their faith, as THAT is the true test of prophets, because should they go straying away from their beliefs in order to speculate about something that wasn’t revealed to them through revelation from God, then they are being presumptuous and therefore would be false prophets.
Since Mr. Weinland was having 100% faith in the beliefs that God’s Church had at that time, Mr. Weinland was not speaking presumptuously, but was only speaking assumptuously, when he stated that April 17th, 2008 would be and was the blowing of the 1st Trumpet of Revelation. If we have a problem with why it is that God chose to not give His revelation for the timing for the return of Jesus Christ much sooner, than we need to be praying to Him and asking this of Him, not of Mr. Weinland, because God is in full control of what he reveals and when he reveals, God’s servants have no control at all whatsoever over those revelations, and so thus, until further revelation is given, they must hold fast onto what they have been believing until revelation changes those beliefs. Most of the level-headed individuals that now deem Mr. Weinland to be a false prophet because of the timing issue did not express their concern that Mr. Armstrong might have been a false apostle when he had to change things based upon revelation from, and such an instance of this would be when God had revealed to His Church that they were not to be keeping Pentecost on a Monday, but rather they should be keeping it on a Sunday, and that was purely revelation from God, and as God’s apostle in God’s Church, that revelation from God gave Mr. Armstrong the authority to fine-tune the doctrine that they had very much long believed. People today understood it much much more than many in God’s Church understood it back during that time, but now that one of God’s prophets had spoken something that was based solely upon the long-held beliefs in God’s Church, we want to immediately deem Mr. Weinland to be a false prophet. If God would only judge His people based ONLY upon what God has given to them thus so far, then we must not judge anymore differently than that. There are so many other instances where God’s apostles and prophets had to change or fine-tune their doctrines because God had revealed to them the deeper spiritual meaning behind the Scriptures contained within the Bible, and that is the ONLY means by which God’s Church, the body of Christ, can grow both in truth and in spirit, through the progressive revelation from God to His servants and thus to His Church. That is how God had worked back during those times, and there is thus so far no reason at all whatsoever to believe that God is working any differently right here right now.
Now, please remember that I am not one whom can get you to see the truths of God, because God and God alone is the one whom can open-up somebody’s mind to be able to see the light of His truth, no human-being dead or alive can be successfull for in such an accomplishment. But all I can do is just hope and pray that this message will have been enough of an inspiration for you to sincerely and genuinely pray to God and pour your heart out to Him and pray for Him to give you only the truth, no matter what that truth may be. If I am speaking falsely, or if Mr. Weinland has been speaking falsely, or if Mr. Armstrong had been speaking falsely, then pray to God to reveal this to you, but just pray to our Eternal God the Father that He reveal what is of the truth to you. As long as you have adopted a humble spirit of humility for desiring the real truths of God, then he will bring you into the light of His powerfull truth, whatever that real truth would so happen to be.
Now, I will say right here right now that if Mr. Weinland should so ever state anything (without powerfull revelation from God) that is based upon anything else other than what God’s Church believes, then I shall deem him to be a false prophet. Had God’s Church already believed that Jesus Christ would be returning on Pentecost, or had there been no further revelation regarding the timing, then Mr. Weinland would most assuredly be a false prophet and I would have had no problem stating this as such, but I have not yet found this to be the case because God’s prophet is only speaking things which are based upon what God’s Church believes until God otherwise corrects them in their tracks. God had not corrected them for a very long while about the true timing for the return of Jesus Christ, and this waiting was for very great purposes that only God can help us to understand, as no manner of intellect or intelligence can help anybody at all whatsoever to understand God and the truths of God, it takes help from God, this is the only only manner of this occurring. We need to pray to God and ask him to help us to spiritually see more deeply into a certain matter, instead of relying upon our own intelligence and intellect by seeing something purely in a physical light, because God is spirit, and so thus he works spiritually, he doesn’t work physically, his mind works spiritually, and since we are only physical human-beings, we need God to us the power of His Holy Spirit for us to be able to think spiritually, that is the only manner in which we can think like God thinks.
I love all of you no matter what, no matter if you believe in these words or not, as we each and every one of us is commanded to love our God, to love our neighbors, and even to love our enemies regardless of and no matter what evils they might be committing or have committed in the past. This is why God states in the New Testament that we are to hang ALL of His Laws upon the Laws of loving God and loving your neighbors, because the first 4 commandments regard loving God, and the last 6 commandments regard loving your neighbors. God saying that all of the Law is hung upon the Law of love is NOT saying that the Law is done away with and that we only have to act nice towards each one another, no, that is most certainly quite the contrary, because the very following of those commandments is what hanging those Laws upon the 2 Laws of love because all of the 10 Commandments from God stem from those 2 Laws of love, so thus, the Laws of love in the New Testament are what FULLFILLS the 10 Commandments, it does NOT in ANY way, shape, fashion, or form, make one jot or one tittle pass away from the Law, and such will not be the case until the heavens and the Earth pass away, just as it was stated by our Eternal God the Father’s only begotten Son Jesus Christ, the Messiah for mankind.